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Raising The Confederate Flag: A Salute to Patriotism or Racism
Last Featured: 7/2/2001

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For some, the Confederate flag represents centuries of slavery and bigotry; for others it`s a patriotic tribute to the soldiers who died defending the South. Does a state`s endorsement of the Confederate flag fly in the face of an African-American`s right to racial equality? Can a high school student be suspended for showing his friends a small Confederate flag at lunchtime? Join us as we explore the limits of symbolic speech and equality on this edition of Justice Talking.

Kirk Lyons is the Director of the Southern Legal Resource Center, a South Carolina legal foundation that is involved in almost all of the Confederate flag fights across the south. A graduate of Bates College of Law at the University of Houston, Lyons has brought civil rights claims on behalf of the families of those who died at the Branch Dividian compound near Waco, Texas and helped to negotiate an end to the Montana Freeman standoff in June 1996. Among other organizations, Lyons is a member of Sons of Confederate Veterans, the Children of Confederacy, the Confederate Society of America and the ACLU.

Kevin Gray is an author and community activist who is currently spearheading the Harriet Tubman Freedom House project in Columbia, South Carolina. A contributing editor to Black News, Gray served as a national board member of the American Civil Liberties Union and is a past three-term president of the ACLU's South Carolina affiliate. Gray began his organizing efforts in 1968 when he and his sister, Valerie, integrated Spartanburg's Fair Forest Elementary School under the Federal Desegregation Plan. He was a founding member of the National Rainbow Coalition and served as the South Carolina coordinator for Jesse Jackson's 1988 presidential campaign. He is currently writing a book about the Confederate flag.

Closing Quote
"You might ask shockingly, 'A flag, what's that? A stick with a rag on it?' No sir, a flag is much more. With a flag, you lead men. For a flag, men live and die. In fact, it is the only thing for which they are ready to die in masses, if you train them for it. Believe me, the politics of an entire people can be manipulated through the imponderables that float in the air."

— Theodore Herzl

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