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Race and Public School Assignments
Last Featured: 1/8/2007

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Can race be a factor in deciding which public schools students will attend? That’s the main issue in two cases from Seattle, Washington and Louisville, Kentucky being heard in the U.S. Supreme Court this term. Although the programs differ, each school board is accused of discrimination for setting numerical targets for minority enrollment in order to maintain racial diversity in their schools. Join us for this edition of Justice Talking as we take a detailed look at how school districts assign students to schools.

Interview with a Parent
Host Margot Adler speaks with a parent who is president of a group that is suing the Seattle School District over its use of race in assigning students to city schools.

Kathleen Brose is the president of Parents Involved in Community Schools, a group of parents and community members who fought against the use of a racial "tiebreaker" by public high schools in Seattle, Washington.

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Interview with Scholar
Host Margot Adler speaks with Lois Weis, an education professor who has studied race, class and gender in American schools, about the history of desegregation efforts.

Lois Weis is a professor in the Graduate School of Education at the University at Buffalo, State University of New York. She is the author, co-author or editor of numerous books and articles on race and America's public schools, including Beyond Silenced Voices: Class, Race and Gender in United States Schools.

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Debate on the Issue: Using Race to Achieve Equality?
Law professor Charles Ogletree and Center for Individual Rights president Terrence Pell debate the role of race in deciding where students should go to school.

Charles Ogletree is the founder and executive director of the Charles Hamilton Houston Institute for Race and Justice at Harvard University, where he is also a law professor. He is the author of the historical memoir All Deliberate Speed: Reflections on the First Half-Century of Brown vs. Board of Education and has received numerous awards for his work, including the Rosa Parks Civil Rights Award and the Morehouse College's Ghandi, King, Ikeda Community Builders Prize.

Terrence J. Pell is the president of the Center for Individual Rights, a conservative public interest law firm in Washington, D.C. Prior to joining the Center for Individual Rights, he served as a deputy assistant secretary for civil rights in the U.S. Department of Education. He has written extensively on racial preferences, quotas and affirmative action for newspapers and scholarly journals.

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Report from Chicago
Reporter Shannon Heffernan files from the city of Chicago, where the public school system is seeking to be relieved of federal supervision over its desegregation efforts.

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Selecting on Different Criteria
Host Margot Adler speaks with Bob Saffold, a public education advocate, about a new family income-based assignment system being used to determine the makeup of North Carolina schools.

Bob Saffold is the president of the Wake Education Partnership. Previously, he worked as a classroom teacher, a school administrator and as an associate for the Public Education Network, a national association of local education funds and individuals working to advance public school reform.

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Beyond Black and White
Host Margot Adler discusses how school desegregation addresses Latino populations with advocate Peter Zamora.

Peter Zamora is the acting Washington D.C. regional counsel for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, where he develops federal legislative strategies regarding education law and policy, voting rights, immigration and other matters. He also serves as co-chair of the Hispanic Education Coalition, which unites national organizations in support of improved educational opportunities for Latino students and families.

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