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From Condors to Big-Horned Sheep
Does the Endangered Species Act Work?
Last Featured: 7/3/2006

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The House of Representatives recently passed a bill which would substantially modify the 33-year-old Endangered Species Act. Supporters of the proposed changes believe the Act has done little to protect wild habitats or threatened species and needlessly ties the hands of farmers, ranchers and other private property owners. But environmentalists continue to support the original law, believing that that government has an obligation to protect fragile ecosystems and species that may soon become extinct. Tune in to this edition of Justice Talking as we examine the Endangered Species Act and how best to preserve biodiversity.

Of Mice and Men
Reporter Bente Birkeland reports from Colorado where natural predators and human development of their habitat threatens the existence of the Preble's meadow jumping mouse.

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Interview with Dale Goble
Host Margot Adler speaks with author Dale Goble to learn about the history of the Endangered Species Act and how different animals and plants get on the endangered list.

Dale Goble is the Margaret Wilson Schimke Distinguished Professor of Law at the University of Idaho. He was formerly an attorney for the Solicitor's Office at the Department of the Interior in Washington, D.C. He is the co-author of two books: Wildlife Law: Cases and Materials and Federal Wildlife Statutes: Texts and Contexts. Since 2001, he has been an organizer of a multidisciplinary, multi-interest evaluation of the Endangered Species Act at its thirtieth anniversary.

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Debate on the Issue
Conservationist Michael Robinson squares off against policy analyst R.J. Smith over the Endangered Species Act, biodiversity, private property and unintended consequences.

Michael Robinson is coordinator of carnivore conservation at the Center for Biological Diversity. He heads the Center's efforts to save wolves and jaguars. He holds an MA in literature from the University of Colorado and has authored numerous articles and opinion pieces on conservation issues appearing in publications ranging from High Country News to the New York Times.

R.J. Smith is an adjunct scholar in environmental policy at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. He coined the term “free-market environmentalism” in his book, Earth’s Resources: Private Ownership vs. Public Waste. Mr. Smith was consultant to the Department of the Interior and the President’s Council on Environmental Quality, and he served as a special assistant at the EPA.

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Interview with a Rancher
Host Margot Adler talks with Kenny Watkins, a California ranch owner whose attempt to develop his own land has been thwarted by the ESA protected fairy shrimp.

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Interview with John Nielsen
Host Margot Adler speaks with NPR environment correspondent John Nielsen about his new book: Condor: To the Brink and Back, the Life and Times of One Giant Bird.

John Nielsen covers environmental issues for NPR. His reports air regularly on NPR's award-winning news magazines All Things Considered, Morning Edition and Weekend Edition. He also prepares documentaries for the NPR/National Geographic Radio Expeditions series, which is heard regularly on Morning Edition. Nielsen also occasionally serves as the substitute host for several NPR News programs.

photo credit: © NPR 2004 Photo by Steve Barrett

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Interview with Florence Oxley
Host Margot Adler talks with Florence Oxley, director of conservation and education at the Lady Bird Johnson Wildflower Center about her efforts to preserve rare and disappearing plant species.

Flo Oxley is the Wildflower Center’s director of conservation and education. She manages the Center’s adult and children and families education programs, onsite interpretation and exhibits, and docent training. She also oversees the seed bank and herbarium programs as well as writing for the Center’s and other publications, and presenting numerous talks and workshops. She has a Bachelor of Science degree with an emphasis in botany and a Master of Science degree with an emphasis in mycology both from Southwest Texas State University.

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