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Redefining Torture
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From allegations of U.S.-operated secret prisons, to Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay, the Bush Administration is revisiting the limits of legal conduct in its pursuit of intelligence. Congress has introduced legislation to limit the rights of enemy combatants to challenge their detentions in federal court while other measures, led by Senator McCain, seek to close loopholes in current anti-torture laws. Join us on this edition of Justice Talking as we examine the laws that govern interrogations and the use of torture in the war on terror.

Michael Hirsh covers international affairs for Newsweek magazine. He was the magazine’s Foreign Editor from January 2001 to January 2002, and helped to guide Newsweek’s award-winning coverage of the September 11 attacks and the war on terror. Hirsh is the author of the nonfiction book At War with Ourselves, which explores America’s foreign policy and its global role.

Spc. Tony Lagouranis (Ret.) was a U.S. Army interrogator from 2001 to 2005, and served a tour of duty in Iraq from January 2004 to January 2005. He was first stationed at Abu Ghraib; in the spring he joined a special intelligence gathering task force that moved among detention facilities around the country.

Barbara Olshansky is Director Counsel of the Global Justice Initiative at the Center for Constitutional Rights. Before coming to the Center, she was a senior attorney at the Environmental Defense Fund. Barbara recently co-authored two books: America's Disappeared and Against War With Iraq, and has written two others: Democracy Detained and Secret Trials and Executions.

Andrew C. McCarthy is a former federal prosecutor and a contributor at National Review Online. From 1993 through 1996, while assistant United States attorney for the southern district of New York, he led the prosecution against the jihad organization of Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, in which militants were convicted of urban terrorism against the United States that included the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and a plot to bomb New York City landmarks.

David B. Rivkin, Jr. David B. Rivkin, Jr. is a partner in Baker & Hostetler LLP and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. He last appeared on Justice Talking in June of 2004.

Hina Shamsi - As Senior Counsel in the U.S. Law & Security Program, Hina Shamsi works through research, litigation and advocacy to ensure that U.S. national security and counterterrorism policies reflect human rights protections under law. During 2004, she was one of the primary researchers and authors of the report, "Torture by Proxy: International and Domestic Law Applicable to 'Extraordinary Renditions.'".

Michael Scheuer is the author of New York Times and Washington Post bestseller Imperial Hubris. Scheuer, the former head of the CIA’s Bin Laden Unit, resigned in November 2004 after nearly two decades of experience in national security issues related to Afghanistan and South Asia. As “Anonymous,” he is also the author of Through Our Enemies’ Eyes: Osama bin Laden, Radical Islam, and the Future of America. Scheuer media has been featured on television and in print worldwide.

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Homeland Security Act of 2002 Adobe Acrobat PDF file.
The Geneva Conventions Geneva Convention on Torture and Inhuman Treatment
ACLU: U.S. Government Documents on Torture
The U.N. Convention Against Torture
Amnesty International
International Rehabilitation Council for Torture Victims
World Organization Against Torture (OMCT)
New England Journal of Medicine - opinion
The Weekly Standard - opinion
PBS - Frontline: The Torture Question
The New Yorker - Seymour Hersh
NPR.org - Report on Torture
Confessions of an Innocent Man : Torture and Survival In a Saudi Prison
by William Sampson
The Torture Debate in America
by Karen J. Greenberg (Editor)
Torture and Truth: America, Abu Ghraib, and the War on Terror
by Mark Danner
Torture: Does it Make Us Safer? Is It Ever OK?: A Human Rights Perspective
by Kenneth Roth (Editor), Minky Worden (Editor), Amy D. Bernstein (Editor)
The Tension Between Security and Liberty in the War on Terror
Immigration and Policy
The Cuban Embargo