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June 18, 2018

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Pay But Don`t Play: The Politics of Compulsory Student Fees
Last Featured: 4/23/2000

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In Regents of the University of Wisconsin v. Southworth, students objected to a mandatory activity fee that is used, in part, to fund student groups whose ideological views they do not share. Relying on a line of cases dealing with compelled speech, the Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit found that the mandatory fee provision violated the First Amendment and the Supreme Court will review the case this term. Join us as we discuss whether universities can create a public forum for the free discussion of all views or must give students the right to opt out of the fee system when they oppose supporting causes they morally oppose.

Jordan Lorence is general counsel for the Northstar Legal Center, a public interest law center based in Fairfax, Virginia. As a litigator specializing in constitutional law, he represented such groups as the Alliance Defense Fund, Concerned Women for America, the American Center for Law and Justice and Home School Legal Defense Association in religious liberty and free speech cases. In November 1999, Lorence argued before the U.S. Supreme Court on behalf of the students asserting their right to conscientiously object to mandatory student fees in the Southworth case. Lorence earned a B.A. in journalism from Stanford University and his law degree from the University of Minnesota Law School.

Steven R. Shapiro is the national Legal Director of the American Civil Liberties Union, the nation's oldest and largest civil liberties organization. As Legal Director, he oversees a staff of nearly fifty lawyers that are involved in hundreds of civil liberties cases throughout the country. He directly supervises the extensive litigation activities of the ACLU before the United States Supreme Court and filed a Friend of the Court brief in support of the University in the Southworth case. An adjunct professor of constitutional law at Columbia Law School, Shapiro has particular expertise in free speech issues. In 1987, he argued and won a case before the United States Supreme Court limiting the power of the government to exclude foreign speakers from the United States because of their political views. Shapiro is a member of the Board of Directors of the Lawyers Committee for Human Rights.

Closing Quote
"Two villagers are having an argument so they go to their rabbi to resolve the dispute. The first man passionately recounts his side of the story, the rabbi listens and says, you are right. The second man then tells his version with equal fervor and conviction and the rabbi listens and says, you are right. The rabbi's wife is listening from another room and she shouts, they can't both be right. The rabbi scratches his head and says, you're right, too."

— An old Jewish story

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